FAQ for Contractors & Distributors

S. Bravo Systems, Inc. strives to ensure 100% satisfaction to its customers and all parties related to the installation of our double and single wall systems.

1) How do I get Certified by Bravo?
2) What are the integrity testing requirements for SingleWall and DoubleWall sumps?
3) Is topping off the manometer with interstitial fluid a normal maintenance procedure?
4) Do I have to "Lake Test" (water test) a DoubleWall Sump?
5) Do I have to be certified to repair or test Bravo Float-Trip Mechanisms?
6) Do Bravo DoubleWall Sumps include Interstitial Fluid and all the necessary accessories?
7) Do Bravo Sumps include Vapor Shear Valves?
8) What do I do if my DoubleWall Sump gauge reads below 12" Hg (vacuum) or zero?
9) What common types of repairs are allowed on Bravo shallow pans?
10) Can I modify or repair a Bravo Conversion Frame?
11) How are Bravo Systems Fiberglass Products "Built like a Tank?"
12) Are Bravo Products Compatible with E85 or Alternative fuels?
13) Are your products compatible with E85 specifically?
14) Are your products compatible with DEF?
15) I have a unique application, can you make custom products?
16) Can I fill a Bravo Double Wall sump with a ‘brine' solution?
17) Can I fill a Bravo Double Wall sump with another manufacturers Propylene Glycol solution?
18) What is propylene glycol?
19) Can I change from hydrostatic monitoring to vacuum monitoring or vise versa?
20) Can the Bravo F-Series Fitting be used with a Brine-filled DoubleWall Sump?
21) What kind of adhesive do I use for the F-Series Fiberglass Fitting?
22) Are EBS, B-27 bulkhead-style electrical fittings allowed on Fiberglass sump walls?
23) What kind of Conduit is allowed for the F-Series Electrical Fitting? Is there anything that will compromise the product warranty?
24) Is there a repair method for Bravo UniFitting flexible entry fittings? What about other manufacturer's flexible entry fittings?


Q1: How do I get certified by Bravo?

A: All Bravo Certifications are performed through an open-book test covered under choice installation instructions. The test is downloaded online from our Certifications Page or mailed to you by request, then the provided Installation Manuals are studied and the test taken. Test results are FAXed to our main office. The tests are then graded with pass or fail. If you fail, you will kindly be asked to re-take the test and focus your study on a certain area or areas that will benefit your next score the most. When you pass the test, you will still be counseled for each question you missed until your score is 100%. This counsel simulates classroom training and feedback.

A nominal fee of $30 per test applies.

Engineering firms or designers who attend our classroom training at our corporate facility are fee-exempt provided the entire class is observed. (3-4 hours)

Our tests are all provided as a Package, which is a .ZIP file containing the test and all study material.
The tests are:

DoubleWall Test - Covers all premier product lines common in California which are AB-2481 compliant, including our popular F-Series Fiberglass Fitting product line.

National Test - This test covers all SingleWall products back to Bravo's very first product. This certification is common for those who do maintenance on legacy product lines. This test is also for those who are being required to be certified by the manufacturer to repair or maintain SingleWall products in California.

FS Test - This stands for F-Series Test. This certification test is meant only for those:
1)
who are only installing the F-Series fitting and is the only Bravo Systems product at the jobsite, or
2)
who wish to augment their installation knowledge and understanding of the F-Series product line

Retrofit Test - This test supports our Retrofit line of penetration fittings and Tank Sump covers which are allowed to be installed by our general installers. Any Non-Specialist Class installer is a general installer. This test must be submitted by a Major test, those being either the National Test (outside of California) or the DoubleWall Test
(in California or other States where DoubleWall sumps are being installed.)

The above information is available on our Certification and Classification Pages.

If you are unsure which Certification package best suits you, please call us or email certifications@sbravo.com

Q2: What are the integrity testing requirements for Singlewall and DoubleWall sumps? A: The procedures approved by S. Bravo Systems, Inc. for the SB-989 and AB-2481 tests are detailed within each products Instruction manual. These can be found on our Installation manual page.

Note: Always check with you local regulatory authority for additional guidelines for testing requirements that may be more stringent than those established by S. Bravo Systems, Inc.

Q3: Is topping off the manometer with interstitial fluid a normal maintenance procedure?

A: Frequently, No. Adding brine should not be necessary. However, monitored DoubleWall systems are subject to various and varying physical and environmental conditions as outlined below. When these conditions are present, periodic observation and maintenance may be required, which may include topping off the interstitial fluid. The majority of these false-alarms happen in the Fall and Spring during seasonal temperature shifts.

It is recommended that a maintenance program be established to support the integrity, cleanliness and function of a containment system at any fuel site in an effort to proactively protect the environment from contamination. Each and every alarm caused by a fluid level drop should be evaluated and monitored. Sumps where an alarm occurs more frequently than every 6 months between seasonal shifts should be considered suspect due to a leak. Testing procedures for Bravo DoubleWall sumps as outlined in each respective installation manual should be followed to attempt to pinpoint the cause of a potential loss of interstitial fluid. This testing should be conducted only by a Bravo Systems DoubleWall-Certified individual or company.

NOTE: Repairs on sumps with major damage that constitutes a containment breach of any material component below grade are not allowed unless Bravo Systems Technical Support has been contacted, the situation is evaluated and a Letter of Authorization is provided on company letterhead detailing the specific issues and remedy's.

If there is a drop in the fluid level to the point where an alarm is generated, you have one or more of a few common issues.

A) You have a breach. Most commonly a leak is caused by a Flexible entry fitting. This could also be caused by impact damage to the interior or exterior sump wall. Impact damage or bruising on Bravo Systems sumps may be visually identified by a concentration or spider-web of white color in the fiberglass. This is true for Bravo sumps that are a natural color on the interior. Our sumps have been paint and gel-coat free since mid 2006.

B) You have air in the interstice, and it is either a) Expansion and contraction of the liquid, expansion and contraction of the air trapped in the liquid, air in the system expanding within the propylene glycol during hot weather causing the fluid to spill out of the manometer, causing an alarm when the temperature drops and the fluid level falls. Alarms that frequently occur at night time or early morning hours are usually attributed to a fall in brine level due to a temperature drop and may happen because the level was already low. Most alarms due to fluid level fluctuations occur at night, and the majority of these types of false-alarms happen in the Fall and Spring during seasonal temperature shifts. and/or b) A DoubleWall sump that was not filled with interstitial fluid per our mandatory Vacuum-Hydrostatic filling procedure is burping air from being “gravity-fed” the fluid. After gravity-feeding fluid into an interstice it can take weeks or months for air to gurgle out of a sump through either the primary or atmospheric manometers.

C) Localized environmental and/or weather conditions may cause the interstitial fluid to evaporate at a more noticeable rate than other areas. In this case, you should determine whether the liquid loss is recent or if it has been occurring over a long period of time.

D) There also exists an issue with some Tank Sumps where the lack of an atmospheric manometer to equalize sump interstice pressures exacerbates the chance of a false alarm and/or fluid spillage. To minimize these alarms, you can install our new low-profile atmospheric manometer for the B400 Series DoubleWall tank sumps. It's part number is "ATM-400-LP" and can be easily installed into the test port opposite the manometer to assist in equalizing the sump interstice pressures.


Testing:

For Sumps installed prior to 2005 the interior walls may be gel-coated white and your options for testing may be limited. You can conduct a 4 PSI air/soap test on the interior but you will need to gain access to the outside of the sump to conduct testing. If you find yourself on the outside, and are fairly sure the penetrations are the culprit then you may think about installing the Retrofit-SD-AB fittings as outlined below so that you would not need to disconnect any product or conduit lines.

For Sumps installed during 2005 or later, the interior walls should be a natural and translucent color. In this case the point of leak(s) can be pinpointed by use of our Advanced Leak Detection Procedure (ALDP as found in the product instruction manual). This procedure is a mandatory step in the initial installation of all DoubleWall containment sumps. It can only be performed by a DoubleWall-Certified Bravo installer/maintenance technician.


Repair options: We have several options for DoubleWall Sumps to avoid the need to break concrete, while still protecting our environment.

Option 1) Replace the failing flexible product and/or conduit boots with an all-fiberglass split retrofit fitting. The F-Series Retrofit-SD-AB fitting at www.sbravo.com/fs allows you to remove flexible entries and permanently seal the pipe or conduit to the sump wall without disconnecting the lines. This fitting requires the concrete to be broken as the installer needs clear access to both sides of the sump wall. This method is available to all Bravo DoubleWall-Certified installers with the prerequisite of completion of our Retrofit certification test.

Option 2) If you are breaking concrete and replacing any pipe or conduit, but had blue line penetrations, we make an F-Series BLR fitting that is sized to fit the hole a Blue Line entry leaves behind after removal. With this product, you do not have to fiberglass the hole shut (which then creates a single wall area therefore voiding AB-2481 compliance) or voiding any sump warranties that are still in effect. This is a valid option for only select situations.

Option 3) The second option does not require you to break ground, and can be installed from within the sump and without disconnecting any product or conduit lines. It is the F-Series D-BLR-S. BLR stands for Blue Line Retrofit and was the first retrofit fitting product developed exclusively to combat those fittings that were systematically failing. This product line now can be made for retrofitting any flexible entry fitting and help avoid the breaking of concrete. Only a Bravo Certified Specialist can install this product line.

Option 4) The last and final option is to replace the sump in question. Make sure you don't choose rubber entries if you do.

Part of our Mission Statement:
It is in line with the mission of S. Bravo Systems, Inc. to produce products that help our customers avoid the need to break ground now and in the future. To remain true to this all of our sumps are designed to be installed once, without the need of repair. In addition, we produce several lines of application-specific fiberglass retrofit fittings and tank sump covers to take care of existing issues without the need to break ground.

For certification requirements: See page 2 of any instruction manual.

For a list of our F-Series All-Fiberglass Retrofit Fittings: go to www.sbravo.com/fs

For instruction manuals: go to www.sbravo.com/install

For an explanation of certification classifications: go to www.sbravo.com/class

For a list of Bravo-Certified contractors: go to www.sbravo.com/certlist

To get them certified: send them to www.sbravo.com/cert

Q4: Do I have to "Lake Test" (water test) a DoubleWall Sump?

A: No, you do not. And you will void a Bravo Systems warranty if you do, in any U.S. State.

Let's educate ourselves. Download LG Letter 162-1 and browse to Page 6, to the latter of Part II: Section A.

The paragraph reads: <quote> Pursuant to Section 2637(a)(6) of Title 23, CCR, portions of the UST system which are continuously monitored using vacuum, pressure, or interstitial liquid level measurement
methods are exempt from periodic secondary containment testing. Therefore, periodic
secondary containment testing is not required for secondary containment of tank and piping
that are continuously monitored using vacuum, pressure, or interstitial liquid level
measurement methods.
Please note that annual certification of the leak detection equipment
is still required.
<end quote>

Assembly Bill 2481 is specific to the State of California. These high standards far exceed the level of containment provided by the SB-989 standards. 2481 is a superior method of leak detection and prevention. Since AB-2481 is superior, why would it need to be supported by an inferior test procedure?

As far as testing is concerned, testing per SB-989 is only valid for SingleWall sumps. It is not a practical test method for DoubleWall sumps. Why? If the sump interstice is dry, how are you going to see a leak on the outer wall if you are filling the interior with water? Both walls would have to have a major breach. The level of damage needed to allow water to leak through both walls (including time to fill up the interstice) would be obvious. If there was only a breach in the outer wall, how would you tell with a lake test if the water was being contained by the inner wall? Also, if there was a breach in the inner wall, but the outer wall was fine, how would you tell if water entered the interstice? Visually perhaps with Bravo Systems DoubleWall sumps, but how long would it take to accumulate enough liquid to see? This method is a great waste of valuable time. We accomplish more with these procedures:

 

1) Sump ships from factory sealed under a continuous Vacuum test of 20"+ Hg.

2) Any breach in the wall, after sealed (Eg. penetration fittings, lamination) is pressure/soap tested at 4 psi.

3) A 4 psi air integrity test is conducted after all laminations / fittings have been installed (prior to any hydrostatic filling) for one hour to allow the pressurized interstice to acclimate, then level is recorded, and tested for another hour before recording result.

4) We also recommend that when DoubleWall sumps are left overnight, that they have a factory-level vacuum (20"+ Hg) applied to the interstice, so that they can be inspected the next day.

5) If the sump is to be hydrostatically monitored, it is Hydro-Vac Filled. This is a Bravo-Exclusive installation procedure that pulls a 20"+ Hg vacuum on the interstice, then allows the interstitial fluid to flow in from a multi-gallon source through a ball valve. That isn't a test! You're right. The Advanced Leak Detection Procedure (ALDP) depends on the sump being filled with our interstitial fluid first. The ALDP test pulls a high vacuum on the interstice after it has been filled with liquid. With no acclimation necessary, the inspection can be done right after the Hydro-Vac filling process. Any leaks in the DoubleWall sump will show up as trails of bubbles coming directly from the leak point(s), which can then be located and repaired without wasting time guessing.

Bravo Systems has been producing DoubleWall Containment sumps since August 2003 and has continued to be the Leader in reliable Secondary Containment equipment. Realizing that the last point of failure were the varied models of flexible penetration fittings, Bravo Systems engineered an entire line of Tank-Spec Fiberglass Fittings (F-Series) that allow you to install and forget while being compliant at the highest level. The F-Series provides unquestionable peace of mind as the fittings cannot deteriorate or fail. We are also the only manufacturer that provides an all-fiberglass conduit penetration fitting. Take a look at our line of F-Series fittings Here.

Q5: Do I have to be certified to repair or test Bravo Float-Trip Mechanisms?

A: No. It is not required as long as the installer or repair technician follows the directions contained in our latest Installation Manuals. The most current Installation Manual from our website must be printed and used. These can be found at www.sbravo.com/install. Make sure that you have your paperwork in order and records are kept. Have the owner or other authority sign and date the Installation Manual that you download from our website. The most important things to know are these:

1) The float must be removed and tested to ensure it has not been breached and cannot be filled with liquid.

2) There can be no debris within the float cup so as to impede the travel or function of the float.

3) After connecting the ball chain to the shear valve retainer, testing the poppet shutoff must only be done by adding liquid to the cup until it trips (remove all liquids after this test). You must never test this mechanism by pulling the float stem, arm or chain because you bypass the intended function of the float. If the float has been penetrated in any way and allows fuel to enter it, then it will not trip the shear valve poppet.

The purpose of the Bravo Float Trip Mechanism is to minimize the amount of fuel needed to trip the shear valve and to maximize the amount of time a maintenance crew will have to get to the sump in question to repair it.


However,
Bravo Systems recommends that the National Certification Test (primarily for SingleWall products) be completed by technicians in the field because it covers the installation and repair of our SingleWall product lines that feature Float Trip Mechanisms, but also requires the individual read through the Instruction Manuals, helping to educate and familiarize them with the products.

Q6a: Do Bravo DoubleWall Sumps include Interstitial Fluid?
A:
Yes. For each DoubleWall product, Bravo interstitial fluid is provided, with 1/2 to 1 gallon extra.

Q6b: Do Bravo DoubleWall Sumps include all the necessary Fittings, Hoses and Manometers?
A:
Yes.
There is a monitoring manometer and an atmospheric manometer. Manometer = Fluid Reservoir. All accessories for the continuous monitoring and testing are installed. All Bravo DoubleWall sumps ship under a continuous 20" Hg vacuum test. The larger of the two is used for visual inspection of fluid level and is the unit that a float-style electronic level sensor is installed in, when required. The atmospheric manometer is used to help balance the fluid level within the sump.

Q7: Do Bravo Sumps include Vapor Shear Valves?
A:
No. Bravo Systems Highly Recommends its B1 Vapor Shear Valve which is both UL and CARB Approved. Most Bravo UDC sumps also do not include the vapor shear valve stabilizer bracket.

Q8: What do I do if my DoubleWall Sump gauge reads below 12" Hg (vacuum) or zero?

FOR BRAVO-CERTIFIED CONTRACTORS / INSTALLERS ONLY:

When your Bravo products arrive via freight, inspect all components for visible damage. If there is any, record the damage on the bill of lading in detail and call Bravo Systems with your damage report details.

If the gauge appears to be damaged, call Bravo Systems to obtain replacements free of charge.

You need to verify if the leak is happening at the gauge assembly or the sump. Common procedure is as follows:

  1. Pressurize the interstice to no more than 4 PSI max.
  2. Submerge the entire Vacuum gauge assembly under water, such as a bucket or pail. Look for signs of air leaking.
  3. Pressure / soap test each length of tubing and each test port at the sump wall.
  4. If these tests are inconclusive, leave the suspect sumps overnight under 20" Hg vacuum and observe gauges in the morning.
  5. If your sumps held vacuum, proceed with the installation per the products respective Installation Manual. View them HERE.
  6. If your sumps did not hold vacuum, call Bravo systems with the results of your testing so we can better help you.


If you are shipped replacement gauges:
After you install them per the provided instructions, follow the overnight vacuum test outlined in # 4 above to conduct a factory test of a re-sealed interstice.

Q9: What common types of repairs are allowed on Bravo shallow pans? Read installation instructions on Bravo B2000 Shallow pans to see if they clarify how to repair various problems.

  • For B-18-3 ‘Black Plastic Compression fittings leaking between gasket and pipe. Use WR-3 wrench to loosen seal between nut and doughnut gasket. Apply wet-dry grease between nut and gasket to allow nut to easily make a compression seal. If you can not get grease between nut and gasket spray WD-40 between surfaces to lubricate hard to reach areas. Then compress nut to ¼ to ½ turns past hand tight.
  • For Electrical fittings that do not have a seal or are leaking. If possible retrofit a compression fitting that seals to both the conduit and Bravo fitting. Blue Line has a split electrical fitting for this application. If split fittings do not apply, then use adhesive to seal annular space by first cleaning and prepping the area around conduit and fitting to remove all contaminates that will prevent bonding of adhesives. Pack annular space and seal area with one of three recommended adhesives: Bravo Vulkem sealant (VS), PetroSeal or Bravo B400-Adhesive Kit.
  • For Shallow Pans with Divider Tabs - Required to electronically monitor each section? You have an option. You are authorized to remove the liquid divider(s) or a portion of them. You need only to remove an area of a few inches from each divider to facilitate unrestricted liquid communication between the previously isolated containment zones.
    1. Remove all mechanical float trip mechanisms and their assemblies.
    2. Remove any sealant at the divider area you wish to remove.
    3. Using Tin-Snips, snip the divider vertically in two places and remove the loose piece.
    4. Seal any metal that was cut, scratched or dinged with Vulkem sealant or PetroSeal to prevent against corrosion.
    5. Use water to determine which float cup qualifies as the lowest point.
    6. Remove all liquids from the sump. Clean and dry the sump interior.
    7. Install the sensor to that cup (lowest point) and mark sump so future maintenance technicians will not move the sensor to another float cup.

    GUIDELINES: No exposed Steel. No power tools on the dividers. Electronic Sensor must be placed at the lowest point.

  • How can I clean up the bottom of a Steel Dispenser Containment unit? Follow this procedure:

    A) Use any solvent or cleaning solution you prefer.
    B)
    Scrape the bottom and/or walls with a flat-blade tool.

    C)
    Vacuum out any liquids, gunk, etc..

    D)
    Acetone to clean the surfaces so a visual inspection can be made.

    E)
    Lightly sand all areas where the factory epoxy-paint is missing.

    F)
    Dust, blow out and/or vacuum any debris from the interior.

    G)
    Protect any exposed test ports or threads, remove any electronic sensors.

    H)
    Coat the interior well with AmerShield, covering all exposed steel.

    For Product Information on AmerShield, Click Here.
    For Information on Surface Preparation, Click Here.

Note: Always check with you local regulatory authority for additional guidelines and permitting.

Q10: Can I modify or repair a Bravo Conversion Frame?

A: No. Under no circumstances can you modify, repair or add to a Bravo Systems Dispenser Conversion Frame (CONV-B2000) unless authorized in writing by the factory.

When authorized, typical allowances include opening a hole in the drainage louver panels only to allow conduit to pass through from below. In this specific case, the hole cut must conform to the O.D. of the conduit as closely as possible. Proper surface preparation and cleaning is necessary, followed by a heavy application of Vulkem 116 sealant. If this process is conducted on a site without proof of written authorization from Bravo, that installation is non-compliant and should be replaced or addressed per all local codes, reguations or applicable laws.

More information can be found on the Conversion Frame Page

Q11: *How are Bravo Systems Fiberglass Products "Built like a Tank?"

Q12: Are Bravo Products Compatible with E85 or Alternative fuels?

Q13: Are Bravo Products Compatible with DEF Diesel Exhaust Fluid?

A: At Bravo Systems, we meticulously engineer our products to be built right the first time. To do this for our UDC Sumps, Transition Sumps, Tank Sumps, Spill Buckets and extensive line of Fiberglass Penetration Fittings we looked to the highest standard, Tanks. Since the Tank is the primary fuel vessel meant for long-term storage, we studied it's specifications ( UL Spec 1316 ) and built our Fiberglass products to match them. Unlike other similar products out there, our choice of materials and quality of design stands up to the test of years of use. In this way we have designed our products to last the life of your station, as the Tank is meant to. Simply put, anything a fiberglass tank can store... our fiberglass products can store as well, for the same duration, under the same conditions. Bravo Systems' Single and Double Wall Secondary Containment systems truly are Built like a Tank.

UST Component Compatibility Library - Hosted by the PEI
Click Here to view Bravo at the UST Component Compatibility Library

BRAVO's List of products compatible with Alternative Fuels - Hosted by the PEI
Click Here for our list of Ethanol and Bio-Fuel Compatible Products at the Petroleum Equipment Institute.

Other Resources:
Our Alternative Fuel / Biodiesel compatibility letter
can be found at www.californiabiodieselalliance.org

We certify that our products are compatible with and approved for use in secondarily containing DEF.

We certify that our Single and Double Wall Fiberglass Secondary Containment systems have tank-like long term compatibility with fuel blends up to E100 and B100. We provide two seperate letters below.

For our official letter covering containment sumps: Click Here.

For our official letter covering our fiberglass entry fittings: Click Here.

S. Bravo Systems Fiberglass Products are UL Listed to be compatible with all alcohol blends. For UL Documentation on our products, Click Here.

Q14: Are your products compatible with E85 specifically?

A: UL does not certify anything to be specifically "E85 Compatible" due to the wide range of blends possible.
But they do allow for certified products to have an optional certification to meet this compatibility.

To see this document Click Here. This document was found on the UL Website, Here.

S. Bravo Systems Fiberglass Products are UL Listed to be compatible with all alcohol blends. For UL Documentation on our products, Click Here.

Q15: Can you make custom products? A: Bravo has custom made products since its inception in 1987. Take a look at any catalog and if you see the general profile of what you need, but need different dimensions, just let us know. Our Custom products are shown on our Custom Page. You can also email Bravo at design@sbravo.com for your special needs.

Q16: Can I fill a Bravo Double Wall sump with a ‘brine' solution? A: NO! Bravo Systems allows only our own Propylene Glycol solution as an interstitial fluid. Using a brine solution or colored water will void your product warranty. The very idea of using brine as an interstice fluid was thrown out by Bravo for use in Double Wall sumps because brine would potentially accelerate deterioration of steel/stainless steel components that come into indirect and direct contact with the brine. This includes penetration fasteners, bolts, flex-connectors and band clamps. Propylene Glycol helps prevent the liquid from freezing within the interstice. Additionally, if the brine solution were to leak out of the wall it could also accelerate the corrosion of other metallic components within the sump.

Q17: Can I fill a Bravo Double Wall sump with another manufacturers Propylene Glycol solution?

A: No. Our glycol is a light red color and is the only fluid allowed in our sump walls primarily to assist with troubleshooting and identification in the field. The exception is water if the sump must be emptied of glycol and flushed clean but water or colored water may not be used for continuous monitoring within our sump interstice. Additionally, other manufacturers may add other chemicals or inhibitors to their fluid in different concentrations which we do not test for or certify.

Q18: What is propylene glycol (PGW)? A: Click on this link to find technical reference: Propylene Glycol Used in moisturizers for medicines, carrier for fragrance oils, food grade antifreeze, hand sanitizers, antibacterial lotions, saline solutions, cosmetics products, baby wipes, bubble bath solutions, shampoos, paint balls, and air craft deicing fluids. Bravo uses a mixture of propylene glycol and water as the interstitial fluid for its double wall hydrostatically monitored sumps. Bravo chose this fluid because it is bio-degradeable and for its freeze-resistant, non-corrosive and non-toxic properties.

Is it considered hazardous waste? By itself, no. Only if it is observed to be mixed with fuel or contaminants.

Propylene glycol that is removed from a sump should never be re-used. It should be replaced with fresh, brand new Bravo-brand monitoring fluid (Part # IMF-1GAL )only.

You can also find the Bravo interstitial fluid MSDS Here.

Q19: Can I change from hydrostatic monitoring to vacuum monitoring or vise versa? A: Yes one can change Bravo sumps from hydrostatic to vacuum however you must always check with your local regulatory authorities and sensor manufacturer before changing a Double Wall monitoring device. Also consult with Bravo for further recommendations. If you have a vacuum sump, some installation will be required to make your sump hydrostatic ready.

Q20: Can the Bravo F-Series Fitting be used with a Brine-filled DoubleWall Sump?

A: Yes. The F-Series fitting is compatible with Brine or Saline Solution (sodium chloride) since the fitting does not consist of any metal components. However, sodium chloride is not allowed in Bravo Systems DoubleWall Sumps, and will void the warranty of that containment sump.

Q21: What kind of adhesive do I use for the F-Series Fiberglass Fitting?

A: Bravo Systems requires the installer to use the adhesive provided by or made for the brand of fiberglass pipe you are using. You are also required to mix the Bravo-Supplied Fiberglass Filler with each adhesive kit. These kits are used for gluing the F-Series Fitting to the Fiberglass Sump wall, as well as the adhesive injection step.

NOV Fiberglass: #7014, #8014

Ameron: PSX-20

F-Series Installation Instructions

Q22: Are EBS or B-27 fittings allowed on Fiberglass sump walls?

A: NO. The EBS and B-27 fittings are bulkhead-style fittings made only for steel walled product lines and can not be installed to fiberglass sump walls.

The EBS conduit bulkhead fitting applies primarily to the B-8600 above ground UDC and the B500/600 series transition sumps.

The B-27 legacy fitting was designed only for the B-2000 shallow pan (Bravo Box) but was sometimes used on the B-8600 for specific applications.

Only flexible rubber entries or Bravo all-fiberglass entries can be used on our Fiberglass sump walls, whether SingleWall or DoubleWall. Bravo highly recommends that flexible entries are not used in below-ground piping systems. To enforce this recommendation, Bravo has developed all-fiberglass entry fittings for conduit and product piping. See the FAQ below for F-Series conduit fittings or visit the F-Series page to view all fittings.

Q23: What kind of Conduit is allowed for the F-Series Electrical Fitting? And is there anything that will compromise the product warranty?

A: Specific types of conduit are mentioned in the F-Series Installation Instructions, they are:

Also, Each Install Manual has a list of specific requirements that if not met will Void the product warranty.

Model Fitting
Size
SingleWall
DoubleWall
F-10-SS

1"

Galvanized Steel Only
N/A
F-10-RR
1"
Rob Roy PVC-Coated Only*
N/A
F-10-SS-D
1"
N/A
Galvanized Steel Only
F-10-RR-D
1"
N/A
Rob Roy PVC-Coated Only*
F-17-SS

3/4"

Galvanized Steel Only
N/A
F-17-RR
3/4"
Rob Roy PVC-Coated Only*
N/A
F-17-SS-D
3/4"
N/A
Galvanized Steel Only
F-17-RR-D
3/4"
N/A
Rob Roy PVC-Coated Only*
* RobRoy Brand PVC-Coated Conduit is available in 3 names:
Perma-Cote Plasti-Bond KorKap

Q24: Is there a repair method for Bravo UniFitting flexible entry fittings?

Q: What about other manufacturers entry fittings?

A: Yes. We have solutions for these. When a flexible entry fitting fails, the fitting must be replaced or retrofit with another. The failed fitting is commonly replaced again with a similar type of fitting. Replacing a failure-prone component in a fuel system with another is not sustainable for anyone. No amount of filling, or external adhesive application will ever permanently repair the offending fitting.

Your options for Bravo entry fittings:

For Bravo DoubleWall Flexible fittings: (F-17-D, B-32-D, B-33-D) If the failed component is on the inside, this can be replaced from the inside. Re-order the same part number. However, you cannot be sure that A) the exterior half of this fitting has not failed as well, and B) that it will not fail in the future. We strongly recommend a Fiberglass Retrofit instead, see below.

For Bravo SingleWall Flexible fittings: (F-17, B-32, B-33, B-34) This boot was engineered to be replaced from the inside. Re-order the same part number. However, we strongly recommend a Fiberglass Retrofit instead, see below.

 

Your options for other manufacturers entry fittings:

For SingleWall Fiberglass Sumps: The F-Series Retrofit-S line of split retrofit fiberglass fittings replace your existing rubber fittings whether they are failing or not and without the need to break concrete. These split fittings are ideal for permanently sealing your sump wall to your fiberglass piping in the event of flexible fitting failure, or for pre-emptive flexible fitting replacement.

For DoubleWall Fiberglass Sumps: The F-Series Retrofit-SD-AB line of split retrofit fiberglass fittings replace your existing rubber fittings whether they are failing or not. These fittings are double-ended split versions of the SingleWall Retrofit fittings and do require you to gain access to the exterior of the sump for each flexible fitting you are replacing.

Another option is the F-Series BLR-S line of split retrofit fiberglass fittings which are fully AB-2481 compliant. This model does not require you to break concrete but it does require a Specialist installer. This split fitting voids the half of the flexible fitting on the exterior of the sump and offsets the interstice of the sump inwards, maintaining fluid communication to the surface of the conduit or the secondary pipe.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Retrofit-S

Retrofit-SD-AB

BLR-S

Email info@sbravo.com for any questions, or to suggest a question to add to our page.

Faxing a question to Bravo customer service is also another good way to get a quick response and bypass the phones. The question is always answered with an easy-to-understand answer and the answer is explained so that you know the "why" involved.

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